In early 2025, Marry de Gaay Fortman took on a new role as day's chair and lecturer for the supervisory board members' executive programme at the Erasmus Governance Institute (Erasmus University Rotterdam).

Marry combines her legal work with non-executive director roles, including as supervisory board chair at Conclusion Group and chair of the IDFA supervisory board.

The Erasmus Governance Institute interviewed Marry about her lecturer position. These were the three main insights from her interview (in Dutch):

• Invest in professional bonding.
• Do not waste negative energy on things you cannot control (dead ducks).
• Learn to listen to what is not being said.